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		<title>By: A Shift from Veganism in the Raw World (Part deux)</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Shift from Veganism in the Raw World (Part deux)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 20:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] animal foods again. Instead of addressing the whole issue anew, I&#8217;m going to direct you to a blog post I wrote in January about the anti-vegan trend within raw foodism, and what my thoughts were. A year later, I feel [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] animal foods again. Instead of addressing the whole issue anew, I&#8217;m going to direct you to a blog post I wrote in January about the anti-vegan trend within raw foodism, and what my thoughts were. A year later, I feel [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Online Gratitude Journal January 2010 Edition #37 &#124; Real Life Spirituality</title>
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		<dc:creator>Online Gratitude Journal January 2010 Edition #37 &#124; Real Life Spirituality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was informed about another great post about the problem vegans face, especially raw vegans. (HT: Gena) I think the whole discussion on vegan nutritional health is very interesting.  Additionally, this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was informed about another great post about the problem vegans face, especially raw vegans. (HT: Gena) I think the whole discussion on vegan nutritional health is very interesting.  Additionally, this [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Raw Food Movement No Longer Vegan? &#124; Raw Foods Witch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raw Food Movement No Longer Vegan? &#124; Raw Foods Witch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it&#8217;s one that really needs to be addressed. Gena Hamshaw from Choosing Raw wrote about her commitment to being vegan and how she was vegan before going raw. I respect her position and determination, and love the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it&#8217;s one that really needs to be addressed. Gena Hamshaw from Choosing Raw wrote about her commitment to being vegan and how she was vegan before going raw. I respect her position and determination, and love the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kristin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t thank you enough for writing this. i have strugged for years with diet, from eating disorders to the Standard American Diet to vegan to raw and just totally out-of-whack. while i feel great for a short time on 100% raw, i find it impossible to stick with. then i&#039;d beat myself up about it. but i&#039;ve always thought - how could beans and legumes be bad for you? i buy dried beans in bulk and cook my own (no chemicals from cans that way) and i just don&#039;t see how that can in any way be unhealthy. i think the best thing about raw is getting vegans away from white flour, white sugar and all the processed fake meats and fake cheeses that are so easy to rely on. so thanks, for making me feel better about enjoying my two all-time favorite meals: homemade refried beans and homemade corn torillas with salsa and guac, and quinoa pasta with cashew-cream tomato sauce and roasted veggies! i mean, how can those be bad?!?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t thank you enough for writing this. i have strugged for years with diet, from eating disorders to the Standard American Diet to vegan to raw and just totally out-of-whack. while i feel great for a short time on 100% raw, i find it impossible to stick with. then i&#8217;d beat myself up about it. but i&#8217;ve always thought &#8211; how could beans and legumes be bad for you? i buy dried beans in bulk and cook my own (no chemicals from cans that way) and i just don&#8217;t see how that can in any way be unhealthy. i think the best thing about raw is getting vegans away from white flour, white sugar and all the processed fake meats and fake cheeses that are so easy to rely on. so thanks, for making me feel better about enjoying my two all-time favorite meals: homemade refried beans and homemade corn torillas with salsa and guac, and quinoa pasta with cashew-cream tomato sauce and roasted veggies! i mean, how can those be bad?!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Yardsnacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yardsnacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting take on the whole vegan lifestyle and the problems some folks have.  Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting take on the whole vegan lifestyle and the problems some folks have.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: RedAvocado</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedAvocado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gena, 

I think it is great that you encourage people to make small changes instead of doing things 100% which can be unhealthy in a different sense.

However, I do find it odd how you state that a too restrictive diet (in terms of rules etc.) can lead to deprivation and nutritional deficiencies but at the same time say that it is a bad idea to combine two certain kinds of foods. From a pure restriction point of view,  it seems to me that worrying about food combining is one of the most restrictive and complicated nutritional guidelines.

Furthermore, there is no credible research that supports the food combining theory. There is, however, a lot of research that shows how it is important to combine certain foods (contradicting the food combining theory). But if scientific research alone is not convincing, I think it makes sense to just think about it a little. As you know, most foods are already a mix of carbohydrates, fat and protein to begin with, so if certain macro nutrients should not be digested together, a lot of foods could not be eaten at all. Of course you could say that well it depends on what a food has MOST of. But again just because we see meat as &quot;protein&quot; or bread as a &quot;carbohydrate&quot;, they cannot be regarded as such in chemistry (and ultimately that is what the biological function of our body comes down to). I would be interested to hear how you would explain the food combining theory with scientifically sound statements. A common pitfall is to think that when something sounds scientific, it is scientific. A lot of people have abused words and concepts to explain things that actually just do not make sense with respect to what we truly know about chemistry/biology (like the enzyme theory of some raw foodists). 

But don&#039;t get me wrong. I am not saying that because of this, raw food is not healthy etc. I eat a very similar diet to yours, but I guess our reasoning as for why differs in some ways. :) I just feel like people should be more careful about what they believe or even what they say. I am sure you would agree that a common problem in nutrition/diet is that there are a LOT of different and often contradictory theories out there. And overall I think this might be a big factor in why some people cannot make effective diet changes -- it is just too confusing and one is always worried if their choice was the right one. To take the food combining theory as an example, assume for the sake of this argument it is complete BS: How many people have felt frustrated because they were confused about the theory? How many people were turned off from making healthy changes because they thought eating this way was optimal and since they couldn&#039;t do that, they would just stick with what they usually ate? Of course there is the other argument that even if a certain theory is not actually true, but  has helped people nonetheless to feel better (placebo or other coincidence), then it does not matter, right...? I can see both sides and in the end it comes down to a philosophical argument. 

Sorry for the long response and for going off on tangents. Love your recipes your views even if I do not agree with some of them. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gena, </p>
<p>I think it is great that you encourage people to make small changes instead of doing things 100% which can be unhealthy in a different sense.</p>
<p>However, I do find it odd how you state that a too restrictive diet (in terms of rules etc.) can lead to deprivation and nutritional deficiencies but at the same time say that it is a bad idea to combine two certain kinds of foods. From a pure restriction point of view,  it seems to me that worrying about food combining is one of the most restrictive and complicated nutritional guidelines.</p>
<p>Furthermore, there is no credible research that supports the food combining theory. There is, however, a lot of research that shows how it is important to combine certain foods (contradicting the food combining theory). But if scientific research alone is not convincing, I think it makes sense to just think about it a little. As you know, most foods are already a mix of carbohydrates, fat and protein to begin with, so if certain macro nutrients should not be digested together, a lot of foods could not be eaten at all. Of course you could say that well it depends on what a food has MOST of. But again just because we see meat as &#8220;protein&#8221; or bread as a &#8220;carbohydrate&#8221;, they cannot be regarded as such in chemistry (and ultimately that is what the biological function of our body comes down to). I would be interested to hear how you would explain the food combining theory with scientifically sound statements. A common pitfall is to think that when something sounds scientific, it is scientific. A lot of people have abused words and concepts to explain things that actually just do not make sense with respect to what we truly know about chemistry/biology (like the enzyme theory of some raw foodists). </p>
<p>But don&#8217;t get me wrong. I am not saying that because of this, raw food is not healthy etc. I eat a very similar diet to yours, but I guess our reasoning as for why differs in some ways. <img src='http://www.choosingraw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I just feel like people should be more careful about what they believe or even what they say. I am sure you would agree that a common problem in nutrition/diet is that there are a LOT of different and often contradictory theories out there. And overall I think this might be a big factor in why some people cannot make effective diet changes &#8212; it is just too confusing and one is always worried if their choice was the right one. To take the food combining theory as an example, assume for the sake of this argument it is complete BS: How many people have felt frustrated because they were confused about the theory? How many people were turned off from making healthy changes because they thought eating this way was optimal and since they couldn&#8217;t do that, they would just stick with what they usually ate? Of course there is the other argument that even if a certain theory is not actually true, but  has helped people nonetheless to feel better (placebo or other coincidence), then it does not matter, right&#8230;? I can see both sides and in the end it comes down to a philosophical argument. </p>
<p>Sorry for the long response and for going off on tangents. Love your recipes your views even if I do not agree with some of them. Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Heather McD (Heather Eats Almond Butter)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather McD (Heather Eats Almond Butter)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wise input as always Gena. I love how you always emphasize that everyone is different, and that you promote fats like avocados and coconuts. I&#039;m always amazed by how many people, especially women are still so scared of fats. It&#039;s the one macronutrient we should be the least frightened of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wise input as always Gena. I love how you always emphasize that everyone is different, and that you promote fats like avocados and coconuts. I&#8217;m always amazed by how many people, especially women are still so scared of fats. It&#8217;s the one macronutrient we should be the least frightened of.</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 06:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greenling, I completely agree with you, I don&#039;t do well with restriction myself. I&#039;m referring to some dear real life friends for whom the 100% raw diet was the ticket to wellness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenling, I completely agree with you, I don&#8217;t do well with restriction myself. I&#8217;m referring to some dear real life friends for whom the 100% raw diet was the ticket to wellness.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn (www.j3nn.net)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn (www.j3nn.net)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an omnivore, but I try to be an ethical eater. I&#039;ve already reduced my meat consumption over the past 12 months or so and have replaced a lot of meat with more legumes, grains and dairy. And while I don&#039;t see myself committing to a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle, I have decided that it would be a great idea to incorporate more raw food meals in my weekly menus. Substituting 3-6 meals a week can be a healthy way to include more fruits, veggies, and nuts into your diet. 

What fascinates me about eating raw is the creativity. Food is a form of art to me, so seeing all of the creative ways raw food is prepared is very alluring. :)

Excellent post, thank you for writing it. I agree, there&#039;s no need to go from raw to animal products, there&#039;s a stage in between. :)

Jenn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an omnivore, but I try to be an ethical eater. I&#8217;ve already reduced my meat consumption over the past 12 months or so and have replaced a lot of meat with more legumes, grains and dairy. And while I don&#8217;t see myself committing to a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle, I have decided that it would be a great idea to incorporate more raw food meals in my weekly menus. Substituting 3-6 meals a week can be a healthy way to include more fruits, veggies, and nuts into your diet. </p>
<p>What fascinates me about eating raw is the creativity. Food is a form of art to me, so seeing all of the creative ways raw food is prepared is very alluring. <img src='http://www.choosingraw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Excellent post, thank you for writing it. I agree, there&#8217;s no need to go from raw to animal products, there&#8217;s a stage in between. <img src='http://www.choosingraw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jenn</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 05:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great statement and discussion!  I was on the Natalia bandwagon before with hi raw + eggs and goat cheese.  I am now focusing on vegan foods- adding hemp and legumes has helped greatly.  The one food I&#039;m not convinced about not eating (now and then) is eggs- when raised ethically, which I know is very rare, but I have found sources.  Would be interested in info.  I also thought it was odd that &quot;Eating Animals&quot; did not discuss dairy- although there I am much more on board with the &quot;not natural&quot; argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great statement and discussion!  I was on the Natalia bandwagon before with hi raw + eggs and goat cheese.  I am now focusing on vegan foods- adding hemp and legumes has helped greatly.  The one food I&#8217;m not convinced about not eating (now and then) is eggs- when raised ethically, which I know is very rare, but I have found sources.  Would be interested in info.  I also thought it was odd that &#8220;Eating Animals&#8221; did not discuss dairy- although there I am much more on board with the &#8220;not natural&#8221; argument.</p>
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