Food Matters: What I’m Learning

by Gena on June 24, 2009

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Part of what I love about my work as a raw foods coach is that I’m learning so much from my clients. My clients hail from different backgrounds, perspectives, and lifestyles, and so the lessons they offer me are wide-ranging and varied. As homage to them and the things they teach me, I’ll be beginning yet another series here at Choosing Raw: the “Food Matters” series. Every few weeks, I’ll share a story from my work with a particular client or clients, and how it has helped to shape my understanding of what different people need as they seek out healthier lifestyles.

This week, I’ve been inspired by a new client. We’ll call him Dan. Dan is, in many ways, a true New Yorker: busy, energetic, and goal-oriented. He wants is to lose some weight and clean up his diet, but there are certain obstacles: he works a high powered job, which involves a lot of corporate dining (and very little time in the kitchen). His hours are erratic, so it’s hard for him to plan ahead for meals or snacks. He travels a lot. He eats late at night. He likes his morning coffee. He enjoys his evening cocktail – or a few. He smokes the occasional cigarette. He’s an omnivore who enjoys everything: this means salad, but it also means meat, cheese, and the occasional fast food dinner. In short, it won’t be easy for him to implement many of the most popular and basic steps towards healthy eating: consistency, homemade meals, and planning.

Many people who approach me for coaching already eat what I consider a healthy diet, at least by mainstream standards. So my work with them typically involves fine tuning: how can raw foods be incorporated easily and more frequently throughout the day? How does one construct a raw food plan for the week? What are some fun and hassle free raw recipes that they can depend on? With clients like Dan, who come from a very mainstream place, the work is different. It usually means baby steps: small improvements that (I hope) will make a difference and kick start bigger ones.

A few days ago, Dan and I were discussing some of these improvements: lighter breakfasts, whole grains rather than processed ones, homemade vinaigrette or simple lemon and oil dressings, rather than store-bought condiments and thousand island dressing at the salad bar. He was very excited to learn about most of these. But when I suggested some of the whole grain or gluten free pasta options out there (in response to his comment that pasta is one of his favorite foods), Dan interrupted immediately. “Oh no,” he said. “I can’t do that.”

“Well,” I countered, “some of them are actually pretty tasty…”

“No. I’d rather eat raw all the time than eat the ‘healthy’ version of pasta! I have to be able to enjoy real pasta when I want pasta.”

I had two reactions to this comment. The first was sympathy: for a pasta lover, some of those whole grain brands are pretty skeevy, no matter how much I support them! The second was admiration. We’re all trying to eat as healthily as we can, but in so doing, we sometimes lose sight of our own limits. As Dan went on to explain that “real” pasta or a good steak are really important to him, I was struck by his cheerful acceptance that there are, quite simply, certain things he can’t, and won’t, change.

And that’s fine. For some people, making healthy substitutions (kamut pasta for white pasta) on a daily basis is the way to go. This prevents the feeling that a certain food is “off limits,” since a healthy version is always available. For other people—like Dan—it’s easier to eat the “real thing,” but on limited occasions. In fact, Dan doesn’t mind taking some raw “steps” that I consider very progressive for newcomers—such as eating raw till dinner—if it means he can enjoy his nights out in a big way. He’s OK with a plant-based diet almost all the time, as long as he can preserve his whole-hearted attitude towards restaurant dining, drinking, and his favorite indulgences the rest of the time. And he’s wise enough to know his own needs.

From now on, Dan and I will be focusing less on specific healthy upgrades, and more on a generally plant based diet—all the while acknowledging that Dan’s big nights out and corporate meals aren’t going to change. This may mean some pretty big changes for Dan most of the time, but it also means that he’ll be enjoying a totally authentic experience when he’s in the mood for spaghetti carbonara.

And along the way, I hope to at least persuade him to try some cashew alfredo!

I hope the lesson here is a helpful one for you: just as it’s admirable to change certain habits that aren’t ideal, it’s also admirable to be able to state honestly what you aren’t willing to change. Some people thrive on little upgrades each day, but can’t stomach dramatic changes. Others are game for big overhauls, as long as they know that they can swing the pendulum back and be totally indulgent once in a while. Knowing what you are and aren’t capable of is a huge step towards a healthy attitude, and it’s helpful to those of us who are helping you! I’m grateful to Dan for telling me what he needs, and impressed with his level of self-knowledge.

On that positive note, have a great day, all!

xo

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Melissa (fitnessnyc) June 24, 2009 at 10:38 am

I definitely agree with Dan. I would also rather have regular white flour pasta 3 times a year than substitute something like shirataki noodles.

However, I agree with you that on a daily basis you can’t eat 75% of the best foods and 25% of the worst foods and really feel the effects of the healthy food. Those acidic, processed products kind of kill the lifeforce energy of the veggies!

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Maria June 24, 2009 at 10:38 am

Love this post, Gena! It’s great to hear that Dan knows what he can and cannot do. I know I would never be able to eat a 100% raw, but I also know that I can incorporate raw smoothies and salads into my day. Hopefully I’ll be able to try out more of your recipes, soon. I’ve been so short on time these days, but want to try all your wonderful recipes :) . I guess I have to figure out some way to make time.

Hope you have a super day!

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Gena June 24, 2009 at 1:11 pm

Happy day to you, too!

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Lauren June 24, 2009 at 10:45 am

Great Post! :) I admit to not being able to give up pasta, I do eat the healthy gluten free kind, but I can’t do the raw kind or even raw marinara for that matter. I am a stubborn Italian when it comes to my pasta! :)

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Kersten June 24, 2009 at 11:34 am

This is great Gena, thanks!! Very insightful and realistic for a lot of people out there. Dan sounds a lot like my man…doesn’t want to sacrifice the favorites for healthier versions. I also use wisdom similar to this in my job–my intent isn’t to change people, but to help them adapt to meet their goals without sacrificing things that are important. Rock on!

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Briana (aka Trilby Drew) June 24, 2009 at 11:41 am

I love this! I can’t wait to hear more about your clients! I love hearing about other people’s favorite foods, healthy habits, and the transitions they are making to live healthier lives. It always inspires me and sometimes gets me thinking in a new way about my own habits. I so hope you keep up this feature, Gena!

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Gena June 24, 2009 at 1:11 pm

I will keep it up, Briana! thanks!

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Briana (aka Trilby Drew) June 24, 2009 at 11:43 am

Speaking of noodles, that reminds me: what was the type of raw noodle you said you like? Was it something made from seaweed? I was trying to find some at the Asian market, but realized that I couldn’t remember what I was looking for. I love my shiritaki and konyaku noodles, but am always looking for new foods to try!

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Diana (Soap & Chocolate) June 24, 2009 at 11:51 am

Ah yes, Dan brings up a good point (of view)! I like your observations here. I think I’m more at the other end of the spectrum, if that other end is indeed made of people who find substitutes for less-virtuous foods. I tend to adapt and eventually never look back (whole grain pasta’s fine by me), so that works for me, but I can TOTALLY understand what Dan is thinking. I wonder if his tendency vs. mine are indicative of a male vs. female inclination…? I feel as though my boyfriend would agree with him if presented with the same situation. Hmm. Certainly food for thought. :)

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Gena June 24, 2009 at 1:12 pm

D — I think this is TOTALLY a gender issue! Food for thought. (I’m more like you–give me a healthy version, and I’m a happy chica.)

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Natalie M. June 24, 2009 at 11:58 am

This was a great post Gena!

I feel like when people attempt to change their way of eating they dive into it with an all or nothing approach and when that happens they end up sabotaging their efforts. It’s okay to give yourself a little bit of leeway as long as you’re willing to hold yourself accountable for the things you commit to. It’s all about the 80/20 rule… do something you’re committed to 80% of the time and give it full effort and you’ll have 20% of the time to slack and indulge.. its a fun way to go through life… you have absolutely no regrets. You get to try and do everything you want… what’s NOT to love!?!

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Katherine June 24, 2009 at 12:29 pm

Since I’ve just started really tuning in to my body and its needs, I’ve found I need to experiment while keeping a totally open mind about all foods – I tried shiritaki noodles b/c a friend recommended them. I enjoyed them! Would I always have shiritaki noodles instead of whole wheat pasta? No. Will I never enjoy regular old white pasta again? Nooo! After all, growing up, my favorite food in the whole world was cheese ravioli!

I also find that when I tell myself something is off limits, I crave it. Constantly. When I committed to an entire raw day, all I could think about was warming soups and sauteed vegetables. Every body is different and has a different set of needs. For some, eating all raw helps their body thrive. For others, that same diet can make their body feel tired or weak. Knowing what you need (physically and psychologically!) from your food is key and I think you are doing great work by helping people to be more in tune with those needs!

I am definitely a proponent of cleaner, greener eating, but the best way for me to do that is to try lots of greener options and to “crowd out” the others. If I eat lots of healthy foods all day and focus on getting my greens and fruits, etc, I won’t have room for other foods. I realize this is a terribly rambling comment, but I definitely wanted to respond to this great post!

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Gena June 24, 2009 at 1:12 pm

Katherine, thanks for such a thoughtful response! I find (and clients find) that the “crowding” is a super successful tactic! I appreciate all of your thoughts.

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Hanlie June 24, 2009 at 12:43 pm

First of all, I’m very impressed with you! So many raw foodists are very rigid, and while you did a post recently explaining that you weren’t, this just underscores that.

I’m like Dan! I’m willing to eat healthy (plant-based, whole foods) 95% of the time and I love it, but when it comes to that 5% I want the real thing. It can be a dessert, or a steak, lamb korma with garlic naan or a pasta. This really affords me the best of both worlds, as these treats don’t happen often. And I’m convinced that over time they will fall by the wayside completely, but at least I’m not being forced to give them up… which would cause be to rebel.

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Gena June 24, 2009 at 1:13 pm

Hey Hanlie! First time commenter? I really appreciate your kind words!!

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Metta June 24, 2009 at 1:12 pm

I tend to be on the other end, eating it b/c it is healthy, then learning to like it. I grew up eating buckwheat pancakes, they have been my favorite type, so a “real” (aka white flour) pancake isn’t any good to me. I think once you get used to that certain flavor/texture that comes from whole grains and gluten-free, it isn’t as un-”real” anymore.

I like hearing Dan’s point of view. I think it is better to live a healthy life, so that when those times come when you want something like steak (or in my case a chocolate chip cookie (vegan and GF of course) ;) ) it’s not such a big deal.

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Dori June 24, 2009 at 1:48 pm

Love this post! I’m like Dan in many ways — there are some foods I just can’t give up and don’t want to. I wouldn’t consider my life as enjoyable without them. They’re little pleasures, and it really doesn’t take much to make me happy when it comes to food! I really like how you are incorporating Dan’s preferences into his plan and working around them to ensure maximum health.

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Sarah (LovIN My Tummy) June 24, 2009 at 3:59 pm

Okay, get ready for some broken record action: so inspirational! I love this post, Gena. I am quickly learning that there is no such thing as “perfect,” when it comes to eating, my life and myself. I’m always going to have my flaws, but there are some flaws (i.e. my disordered eating) that I’m NOT willing to accept.

Love you, girl!

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Natalie June 24, 2009 at 4:21 pm

Gena, I was wondering about your thoughts on Shirataki noodles (it’s funny that Katherine mentioned them!). I saw them at Whole Foods the other day and wasn’t sure if it is a healthy option. I love your blog by the way!

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jessica~ June 24, 2009 at 4:33 pm

Oh, this sounds like a great series!! I think your take on the transition to raw (even if only by a small percentage) is the smart way to do it. There are people out there who can jump in 100% but most can not. Exclusion of foods often means failure for many of us. I can’t wait to hear more about how Dan is doing and what you learn from your other clients as well.

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The Veg Next Door June 24, 2009 at 4:42 pm

I hope Dan changes his mind. He’s missing out on some great pastas made with alternative grains. My family is Italian and very old school but they have embraced whole wheat pasta and bread. At my home we often use kamut and spelt. It’s awesome. Seriously. :-)

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Iris June 24, 2009 at 5:30 pm

As a weight loss consultant, it’s great to hear how other people work with clients to change dietary habits. I think it’s awesome that you respected Dan’s choices and were able to come up with a solution that would work for him. That’s not always an easy thing to do!

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Sofia June 24, 2009 at 6:48 pm

I really appreciate this post! Everyone has different ingrained (ha! grain! love those puns) habits that really aren’t possible to change — and why bother changing them completely? A total dietary overhaul is entirely too restrictive for most and not an enjoyable/ healthy way to live. Knowing when to indulge in moderation is key.

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Neha June 24, 2009 at 7:47 pm

You know, like Dan, if one is ready to eat a lot raw food for most part of the day and occasionally eat regular pasta or pizza – there’s hardly any additional nutritional value gained by swtiching to a whole grain version. White flour is bad for you when you hog on it at every meal, but it doesn’t negatively affect you if you have it a couple of times a month.

There’s just too much hype about white flour – bad, whole grain – good concept. People fail to realize that quantity, frequency, and style of cooking matters more.

Just my thoughts! :)
Lovely blog!

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sandra June 24, 2009 at 7:51 pm

Loved this post Gena — both because it has real wisdom (his and yours) and because I love hearing about specific cases.

Great work — you’ve got a gift!

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Gena June 25, 2009 at 4:12 am

Aw, thank you, Sandra.

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Katrina (gluten free gidget) June 24, 2009 at 8:29 pm

What an interesting perspective! I do sometimes get frustrated when people refuse to even “try” new or different foods. How do you know you don’t like it if you don’t try it?! But, as someone who has to eat a strict gluten free diet, I find that focusing on the amazing foods I can eat, as opposed to the things I can’t, make me completely satisfied with my dietary restrictions. In fact, I have discovered so many foods I never would have experienced on my old “diet”. I am thankful for my Celiacs Disease because it has opened a whole new world to me.

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Heather McD (Heather Eats Almond Butter) June 24, 2009 at 8:37 pm

My dad is straight up meat and potatoes. He eats Ritz crackers with PB and marshmallow Fluff almost everyday. However, he LOVES steamed broccoli with cashew cheeze sauce. Begs me to make it…so yes, I have high hopes that Dan will someday try the cashew alfredo. :)

Great post Gena – very well written as always.

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Gena June 25, 2009 at 4:13 am

Thanks hon. I’ll work on the alfredo!

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Shiny White Page June 24, 2009 at 9:04 pm

Gena, I’m so glad you’re starting this series. Upgrades are the way to go for me at this point and I’m always looking for examples of how other people are incorporating raw food into their regular diets without giving up their “special” foods. The daunting certainly becomes less so with these small goals. Thanks! -Corinna

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Gena June 25, 2009 at 4:14 am

Hey Corinna! Glad you like the idea for a series!!

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Katie T June 24, 2009 at 9:09 pm

Hi Gena!
Ok, so this is somewhat unrelated…although I have to say, I agree with Dan on some counts; I love whole-wheat pasta, but sometimes, I just need a delicious piece of lamb shank, you know? I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate all your thoughtful posts and kind words!! I’ve been reading your blog for a while, and I must admit, I was (very) skeptical at first. RAW pasta? Raw soups? But I’ve truly come to LOVE your blog, for reasons that I’m sure are shared by many of your readers! You are an incredible wealth of information about raw foods and how we can all incorporate them into our lives, and your recipes are freaking unbelievable. I just made your raw zucchini noodles (I added some beet and carrot “noodles”, too) with raw marinara – and, as they say in blogland, Holy Yum! But what I also love about your blog is how you accept that everyone is different, and that different things work for different people. We may not all be able to eat 100% raw (I know that it’s certainly not a realistic goal for me, at least right now), but I LOVE trying to incorporate more raw foods into my diet. Thank you for being such a great teacher and positive voice!

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Gena June 25, 2009 at 4:15 am

Ohmygosh, Katie, thank you! You really just made my day with this comment. It is much, much appreciated. xoxo

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earthmother June 24, 2009 at 9:34 pm

Fab post and excited to see this as a regular feature! Already had loads of respect for you, Gena, and now I have even more for respecting “Dan” and his choices. And kudos to Dan for being so clear on where he was willing to change and where he needed to draw the line.

I’ve met waaaaaaaaay too many folks who jump into Raw Food Land with both feet and take on a militant black-and-white, all-or-nothing stand — and 9 out of 10 of them, jump ship, never to be seen again. I think that’s why I resonate so strongly with Natalia’s start-where-you-are approach.

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Casey June 25, 2009 at 3:05 am

Great post Gena. I completely agree and I LOVE learning new things from each of my clients. Always something to learn and challenge you. Great, isn’t it :) xx

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ttfn300 June 25, 2009 at 3:51 am

This was a great post! I am still trying to learn more about what i eat (where it comes from, etc) and thinking about if i really want to continue eating it. But I already have the feeling that there are many things I’ll have no problem giving up, and some things that will just have to stay :) I’d love to incorporate more raw foods soon. First I’m trying to be more accepting of myself and get rid of my all-or-nothing attitude that pops in every now and again:/

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Gena June 25, 2009 at 4:16 am

Way to go, ttfn300! Sounds like you’re developing a good sense of who you are and what you need.

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rhodeygirl June 25, 2009 at 5:36 am

you amaze me Gena. Great post!

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Nathalie Lussier June 25, 2009 at 8:08 am

That’s really great Gena. I find myself having similar conversations with my clients and family. I admire what you’re doing Gena and I know we’re all making a difference in people’s lives. :)

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Gena June 25, 2009 at 11:06 am

Thanks, Nathalie! I love hearing from someone else who’s spreading the light :)

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Hangry Pants June 25, 2009 at 4:52 pm

I am a person who can sub. whole grain pasta for “real pasta” and be totally fine. Question though, why did you suggest gluten free pasta for him? And what would be an example?

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RunToFinish June 25, 2009 at 6:32 pm

oh i love that! i think it’s the reason that I still eat cookies, you know I just truly enjoy them and they make life wonderful so as long as I acknowledge them as a joyful treat, I think it’s ok

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leslie June 26, 2009 at 6:25 am

this is SO true. i’m still figuring out how i feel about this concept – whether it’s better to have a “healthified” version of something, or save the real thing for special occasions. i’ve always admired my dad for achieving this balance – he is very much one of those people that is happy to eat vegetables a lot of the time, as long as he can have a real steak or really good cheesecake once in a while. there are so many different approaches to a balanced and healthy life; sometimes i really forget that!

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Meghan (Making Love In The Kitchen) June 27, 2009 at 6:37 am

I am forever learning from my clients- both about diet and about being a great practitioner. Though I often feel drained and exhausted by the two-hour health history intake I do conduct before I take away the info to put together a custom program, it is amazing what I learn. I feel like no matter where my cooking school, and writing endeavors take me- the nutrition and lifestyle counselling will always be a part pf my practice.

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Alex July 23, 2009 at 9:29 pm

Hi Gena,

Sorry I am a little late in commenting on this post , I just found it through the “Food Matters: You Pick Yourself Up, You Dust Yourself Off” post.

What I find annoying is that attitudes like Dan’s toward gluten free pasta generally comes from people who won’t given the healthy option a chance (‘I have never had it before but I know I hate it and will make a point to hate it if you make me try’).
I am a firm believer that switching from refined to wholefoods, take a little getting used to, like when I first switched from white rice to brown rice. Brown rice has since really grown on me, and even my boyfriend has started eating it even tho he said to start with “No way, I am not eating brown rice!”.
Anyway, I realise that I don’t fully know Dan’s story and don’t necessarily know where he is coming from but I must say that I totally admire your attitude. I think I would have gotten really frustrated and pissed off which is totally counterproductive!

Alex

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Kat August 29, 2009 at 2:57 pm

I know I’m a little late leaving this comment, but I’m celiac and therefore MUST eat gluten-free (fortunately my fiancee is always willing to try new gluten-free food with me!), and while I am leaning more and more towards an all raw diet, there are many delicious gluten-free pastas out there now… for carbonara especially, corn pasta works well, and the quinoa pasta is delicious as well. I think what it really comes down to is *trying* new ways of doing things — you never know, you may just find something that you *love* even more than your old favorite!

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